1 00:00:00,990 --> 00:00:14,470 [Music] 2 00:00:19,099 --> 00:00:17,120 my name is Jeremy Korbel today we're 3 00:00:24,410 --> 00:00:19,109 doing an official screening of my film 4 00:00:26,810 --> 00:00:24,420 patient 17 we're at the National Museum 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:26,820 of Denmark and we're gonna be showing 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:28,410 the whole film so I'm really excited for 7 00:00:32,540 --> 00:00:30,330 today I will also be doing a lecture 8 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:32,550 talking a little bit about behind the 9 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:35,880 scenes of the film patient 17 so join me 10 00:00:48,590 --> 00:00:46,170 and we'll do it this field is so broad 11 00:00:50,810 --> 00:00:48,600 there are so many aspects to the to the 12 00:00:54,830 --> 00:00:50,820 UFO field there's so many different 13 00:00:56,540 --> 00:00:54,840 areas of interest I will cover a number 14 00:00:59,540 --> 00:00:56,550 of areas today because I've made a lot 15 00:01:03,139 --> 00:00:59,550 of films on the subject a lot of times I 16 00:01:04,369 --> 00:01:03,149 just play my films they speak for me but 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:04,379 this time I'm going to try to kind of 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:06,810 tell you the behind the scenes on some 19 00:01:11,660 --> 00:01:08,010 of the stuff some of the characters that 20 00:01:12,890 --> 00:01:11,670 you see I filmed also today I hope to 21 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:12,900 show you something I've never been able 22 00:01:17,539 --> 00:01:15,180 to show anybody before because it's 23 00:01:19,850 --> 00:01:17,549 never been done so this will be an epic 24 00:01:23,630 --> 00:01:19,860 day towards the end I hope to show you 25 00:01:27,020 --> 00:01:23,640 something that you did not expect not a 26 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:27,030 real UFO or anything okay so this 27 00:01:32,210 --> 00:01:30,000 presentation is a UFOs or a Clockwork 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:32,220 Orange it's just a very simple metaphor 29 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:36,210 as a filmmaker the idea as you'll see 30 00:01:43,340 --> 00:01:39,180 throughout the presentation that I give 31 00:01:45,289 --> 00:01:43,350 today is that you know UFOs are not as 32 00:01:46,999 --> 00:01:45,299 they appear that it might be something 33 00:01:50,620 --> 00:01:47,009 more or different or even maybe 34 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:50,630 artificial so let's see if we get there 35 00:01:56,780 --> 00:01:52,110 that's me 36 00:01:59,630 --> 00:01:56,790 okay I identify myself as an 37 00:02:01,580 --> 00:01:59,640 investigative filmmaker I think anybody 38 00:02:03,980 --> 00:02:01,590 with an iPhone and a little bit of 39 00:02:06,830 --> 00:02:03,990 curiosity could say the exact same thing 40 00:02:08,449 --> 00:02:06,840 it's not a special title it's just 41 00:02:10,780 --> 00:02:08,459 somebody that you know decides to use 42 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:10,790 the visual medium of film and 43 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:12,510 investigate something that they're 44 00:02:17,900 --> 00:02:13,740 curious about 45 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:17,910 obviously UFOs is a very deep topic I'm 46 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:19,200 going to show you a few clips throughout 47 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:21,300 this presentation these clips are to 48 00:02:24,290 --> 00:02:22,800 kind of associate you a little bit with 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:24,300 my work I don't assume that you've seen 50 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:27,330 my films so this is the intro for my 51 00:02:32,090 --> 00:02:29,040 series which is important because you'll 52 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:32,100 see the overarching theme is not UFOs I 53 00:02:35,450 --> 00:02:32,910 know everything 54 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:35,460 it's extraordinary beliefs it's the 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:37,890 ideas the extraordinary beliefs of 56 00:02:52,059 --> 00:02:49,420 my name is Jeremy Korbel I seek to 57 00:02:54,570 --> 00:02:52,069 weaponize your curiosity and if you're 58 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:54,580 ready to suspend your own prejudice 59 00:03:07,030 --> 00:02:57,680 welcome to the world of extraordinary 60 00:03:08,949 --> 00:03:07,040 beliefs are we we have material that has 61 00:03:11,380 --> 00:03:08,959 been pulled out of a man's leg that 62 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:11,390 should not exist this sample could not 63 00:03:16,690 --> 00:03:13,519 have been made on earth because the 64 00:03:18,789 --> 00:03:16,700 isotopic ratios I know there are alien 65 00:03:23,140 --> 00:03:18,799 craft here from another planet I was 66 00:03:25,119 --> 00:03:23,150 inside one who are we and where are we 67 00:03:28,270 --> 00:03:25,129 actually sitting within the architecture 68 00:03:30,220 --> 00:03:28,280 of our universe are we alone or is the 69 00:03:37,059 --> 00:03:30,230 answer simply stranger than we can think 70 00:03:42,030 --> 00:03:37,069 and think all right so that's the the 71 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:42,040 kind of intro for my whole series called 72 00:03:46,119 --> 00:03:44,810 extraordinary beliefs as you can see 73 00:03:48,580 --> 00:03:46,129 from some of that footage you might 74 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:48,590 recognize some of the people that was in 75 00:03:54,610 --> 00:03:50,959 that video so six man to walk on the 76 00:03:57,789 --> 00:03:54,620 moon dr. Edgar Mitchell right Bob Lazar 77 00:03:58,870 --> 00:03:57,799 but a modern day version of Bob Lazar it 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:03:58,880 was not very long ago 79 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:02,810 he's like the bigfoot of ufos 80 00:04:08,979 --> 00:04:05,510 nobody can capture him on camera right 81 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:08,989 in 30 years there has been three hours 82 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:12,260 maybe maybe total three hours of footage 83 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:14,000 of Bob Lazar talking about his 84 00:04:18,490 --> 00:04:16,010 experience back-engineering 85 00:04:21,009 --> 00:04:18,500 allegedly UFOs for the United States 86 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:21,019 government so that was incredible to get 87 00:04:27,730 --> 00:04:24,130 him almost 30 years later now you 88 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:27,740 noticed I filmed inside of a Hasidic 89 00:04:34,570 --> 00:04:31,430 Jewish temple a synagogue right I've 90 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:34,580 been able to get access to some of the 91 00:04:39,129 --> 00:04:36,620 craziest places that I never thought 92 00:04:42,909 --> 00:04:39,139 possible simply because I pointed a 93 00:04:45,550 --> 00:04:42,919 camera at somebody so the camera has for 94 00:04:48,339 --> 00:04:45,560 me acted like a passport into the 95 00:04:50,980 --> 00:04:48,349 unknown and I think that really what's 96 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:50,990 behind that is curiosity with with real 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:54,260 curiosity people want to tell their 98 00:04:58,420 --> 00:04:54,770 story 99 00:04:59,480 --> 00:04:58,430 I don't remember I'm I barely have any 100 00:05:00,950 --> 00:04:59,490 sleep from you know 101 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:00,960 just got here to Denmark thanks for 102 00:05:03,559 --> 00:05:02,310 having me I don't I said that yet but 103 00:05:04,999 --> 00:05:03,569 thanks for having me again here in 104 00:05:06,620 --> 00:05:05,009 Frederick for putting this on I mean 105 00:05:08,540 --> 00:05:06,630 it's a real pleasure to talk to you guys 106 00:05:10,969 --> 00:05:08,550 and have the opportunity to share some 107 00:05:13,969 --> 00:05:10,979 of the stuff I'm very passionate about 108 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:13,979 I'm a very nuts and bolts person does 109 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:17,190 that translate properly ok I don't think 110 00:05:22,700 --> 00:05:19,550 my humor will but at least that does 111 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:22,710 right ok it says it up there so I'm a 112 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:25,050 very nuts and bolts person when it comes 113 00:05:32,719 --> 00:05:29,039 to UFOs this is how I began it's just 114 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:32,729 very simple mechanical that's what first 115 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:35,310 started my whole interest in the subject 116 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:37,889 so I consider myself to be very 117 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:40,370 straightforward very nuts and bolts 118 00:05:46,999 --> 00:05:44,250 however a lot of my friends and my mom 119 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:47,009 up in that corner they consider me to 120 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:50,639 just be [\h__\h] nuts this is a taboo 121 00:05:56,779 --> 00:05:53,520 subject for some people for me this is a 122 00:06:00,740 --> 00:05:56,789 problem it's the UFO problem what I mean 123 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:00,750 by that is to a degree there is a 124 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:03,810 solution I like to believe that that I 125 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:06,060 like to believe that tomorrow I'm gonna 126 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:08,880 know more about this mystery than I do 127 00:06:13,159 --> 00:06:11,550 today so I call it the UFO problem 128 00:06:17,390 --> 00:06:13,169 because it's a it's an ideological 129 00:06:19,850 --> 00:06:17,400 problem it's a problem of faith of 130 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:19,860 spirituality for some people it's a 131 00:06:28,909 --> 00:06:25,530 problem of you know mechanics so when I 132 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:28,919 say it's a UFO problem understand that 133 00:06:33,050 --> 00:06:30,930 it's more that I'm saying that there are 134 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:33,060 solutions to be found there are things 135 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:35,610 to be learned that's what I mean by that 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:38,520 term within the UFO problem there are 137 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:40,289 many things that I've been able to study 138 00:06:46,129 --> 00:06:43,440 and become a part of skinwalker ranch 139 00:06:50,330 --> 00:06:46,139 very famous location with high activity 140 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:50,340 of UFOs obviously area 51 the CIA got to 141 00:06:55,779 --> 00:06:53,250 question a bunch of CIA heads about UFOs 142 00:06:57,950 --> 00:06:55,789 Bob Lazar another person whose story 143 00:07:00,110 --> 00:06:57,960 fascinated me 144 00:07:02,540 --> 00:07:00,120 ColdFusion is something else I've been 145 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:02,550 able to look into from following the 146 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:04,050 same train of thought the same mystery 147 00:07:10,010 --> 00:07:06,000 dr. Edgar Mitchell six man to walk on 148 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:10,020 the moon and dr. Roger Leir who you saw 149 00:07:14,990 --> 00:07:13,170 was the subject 150 00:07:16,430 --> 00:07:15,000 was initially the subject of my film I 151 00:07:18,770 --> 00:07:16,440 showed you today patient 17 152 00:07:23,810 --> 00:07:18,780 although patient 17 became the real 153 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:23,820 subject of that film altogether all of 154 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:25,290 these things that I've been able to film 155 00:07:32,060 --> 00:07:29,010 and get deep into ultimately it's all 156 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:32,070 what I call the phenomenon it's just a 157 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:35,280 simple blanket term that I use to 158 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:37,050 describe all of these things because I 159 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:39,360 have quickly learned that it's not just 160 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:44,250 about hard metal silver disks visiting 161 00:07:49,910 --> 00:07:46,770 from potential other star systems that 162 00:07:52,340 --> 00:07:49,920 the UFO phenomenon it encompasses so 163 00:07:56,690 --> 00:07:52,350 much of the human experience 164 00:08:01,370 --> 00:07:56,700 from faith to belief to medicine to 165 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:01,380 psychology so if you're picking up what 166 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:03,710 I'm putting down I'm basically saying 167 00:08:10,070 --> 00:08:08,130 this is a vast mystery that's why we 168 00:08:12,340 --> 00:08:10,080 need so many different perspectives 169 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:12,350 that's why we need so many different 170 00:08:18,290 --> 00:08:14,400 professional individuals looking at this 171 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:18,300 from a standpoint of art to journalism 172 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:23,250 to science to faith to mythology to 173 00:08:30,530 --> 00:08:26,010 psychology we need people in all fields 174 00:08:34,310 --> 00:08:30,540 to contribute and not be passive mark my 175 00:08:38,180 --> 00:08:34,320 words there is a mystery a true mystery 176 00:08:41,870 --> 00:08:38,190 here this phenomenon is real it's 177 00:08:45,290 --> 00:08:41,880 happening it's tangible it's partially 178 00:08:48,110 --> 00:08:45,300 physical but you could deny it all day 179 00:08:51,890 --> 00:08:48,120 long it is a real phenomenon 180 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:51,900 I think I'm preaching to the choir so 181 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:54,290 I'll shut up okay 182 00:08:59,800 --> 00:08:55,760 usually that's when people start 183 00:09:01,960 --> 00:08:59,810 throwing things at me anyway yeah so I 184 00:09:04,270 --> 00:09:01,970 was 13 years old somebody asked me why 185 00:09:05,470 --> 00:09:04,280 did you get interested in this gentleman 186 00:09:07,150 --> 00:09:05,480 asked me over here why did you get 187 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:07,160 interested in this so really I was 13 188 00:09:11,140 --> 00:09:09,260 years old and on the radio I heard might 189 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:11,150 who is now my mentor in journalism 190 00:09:15,850 --> 00:09:13,130 George Knapp and he was interviewing the 191 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:15,860 famous bob lazar right the cosmic 192 00:09:20,830 --> 00:09:18,290 whistleblower the guy who if he's 193 00:09:23,380 --> 00:09:20,840 telling the truth the same story he's 194 00:09:26,170 --> 00:09:23,390 been telling you for 30 years now if 195 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:26,180 he's telling the truth then we need to 196 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:28,370 start accepting that truth okay so I 197 00:09:33,010 --> 00:09:30,890 heard Bob on the radio with his best 198 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:33,020 friend Jean Huff and they were talking 199 00:09:37,270 --> 00:09:35,450 about the propulsion system the 200 00:09:39,820 --> 00:09:37,280 propulsion system that Bob Lazar 201 00:09:43,690 --> 00:09:39,830 allegedly worked on at a sub base of 202 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:43,700 area 51 called s4 or site for and why 203 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:46,730 that weaponized my curiosity why that 204 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:52,250 threw me into this world of interest is 205 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:55,250 because I to explain it very simply it 206 00:10:02,110 --> 00:09:57,650 flipped the script it flipped my 207 00:10:05,230 --> 00:10:02,120 thoughts I went from thinking that as a 208 00:10:07,330 --> 00:10:05,240 kid I went from thinking locomotion you 209 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:07,340 have to you have to push and you have to 210 00:10:12,130 --> 00:10:10,130 push against something to go forward so 211 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:12,140 I was kind of in your guys camp oh of 212 00:10:14,740 --> 00:10:13,490 course there's life out there in the 213 00:10:15,970 --> 00:10:14,750 universe although when I was when I was 214 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:15,980 13 years old and I was talking about 215 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:17,660 this I mean people really thought I was 216 00:10:23,290 --> 00:10:20,240 crazy most of you in the room know what 217 00:10:26,130 --> 00:10:23,300 it was like you know 30 years ago or 20 218 00:10:30,190 --> 00:10:26,140 you know 28 years ago talking about this 219 00:10:33,820 --> 00:10:30,200 it was not not accepted not accepted at 220 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:33,830 all very different now people of course 221 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:35,570 the life is team or the universe is 222 00:10:40,060 --> 00:10:37,310 teeming with life it's like as if they 223 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:40,070 thought of it themselves right but it's 224 00:10:45,010 --> 00:10:41,630 just because science is catching up but 225 00:10:47,110 --> 00:10:45,020 I was in your camp there I'm sure this 226 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:47,120 intelligent life but are they coming 227 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:48,530 here I mean I've never seen anything so 228 00:10:54,420 --> 00:10:51,050 are they coming here but the way Bob 229 00:10:56,860 --> 00:10:54,430 Lazar described the propulsion system it 230 00:10:59,860 --> 00:10:56,870 immediately changed the way that I 231 00:11:02,440 --> 00:10:59,870 looked at space time travel really 232 00:11:06,220 --> 00:11:02,450 really simple he talked about an energy 233 00:11:07,530 --> 00:11:06,230 source and an energy source they were so 234 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:07,540 powerful 235 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:10,690 that the gravity waves extended beyond 236 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:14,769 the mass of the energy source and as we 237 00:11:19,860 --> 00:11:17,410 know a wave can be amplified and if you 238 00:11:23,129 --> 00:11:19,870 could amplify that wave then you're 239 00:11:27,019 --> 00:11:23,139 projecting these are emitters of gravity 240 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:27,029 if you can do that anything is possible 241 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:30,190 the moment you can amplify a wave which 242 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:31,630 now we know gravity is a wave 243 00:11:36,509 --> 00:11:33,610 definitively which back then we didn't 244 00:11:39,180 --> 00:11:36,519 when Bob talked about it but if you can 245 00:11:42,199 --> 00:11:39,190 amplify a wave of gravity then wherever 246 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:42,209 you project that you can literally fall 247 00:11:46,860 --> 00:11:44,560 wherever you want to go in space-time 248 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:46,870 that's the basic concept it's not 249 00:11:52,650 --> 00:11:49,180 locomotion it's not pushing forward it 250 00:11:54,059 --> 00:11:52,660 is literally falling into place like if 251 00:11:57,329 --> 00:11:54,069 you have a mattress and a bowling ball 252 00:11:58,530 --> 00:11:57,339 on that mattress and you push your fist 253 00:12:00,480 --> 00:11:58,540 down on the mattress and the bowling 254 00:12:01,319 --> 00:12:00,490 ball will fall to your fist that same 255 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:01,329 kind of idea 256 00:12:05,819 --> 00:12:03,910 it's it's completely different it 257 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:05,829 doesn't take hundreds of thousands of 258 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:07,690 light years to get somewhere anymore 259 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:11,170 your your space and time is elastic so 260 00:12:14,519 --> 00:12:12,880 man that really flipped my script that 261 00:12:16,139 --> 00:12:14,529 really made me think but you know I was 262 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:16,149 13 I didn't give a [\h__\h] after I thought 263 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:20,410 about it so I went on with my life and 264 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:22,410 my life was very different than being a 265 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:24,190 investigative filmmaker 266 00:12:27,420 --> 00:12:25,600 I'll show you like 20 seconds I did 267 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:27,430 something called jiu-jitsu which is a 268 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:29,040 martial art this is for show 269 00:12:44,420 --> 00:12:32,970 [Music] 270 00:12:47,179 --> 00:12:44,430 I don't even recognize myself that's 271 00:12:49,119 --> 00:12:47,189 like a previous life so that's a little 272 00:12:51,410 --> 00:12:49,129 clip that basically shows a 273 00:12:54,129 --> 00:12:51,420 demonstration I did for kids that kind 274 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:54,139 of thing but it was a very hard impact 275 00:12:59,420 --> 00:12:57,120 high-impact life it was high science but 276 00:13:02,749 --> 00:12:59,430 you can only do that for so long so when 277 00:13:05,650 --> 00:13:02,759 my became less painful to do what I do 278 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:05,660 now anyway something happened to me 279 00:13:10,999 --> 00:13:08,610 during that time of my life when I was 280 00:13:13,249 --> 00:13:11,009 dedicated to jiu-jitsu I never thought I 281 00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:13,259 would do anything else that was it I 282 00:13:23,119 --> 00:13:16,560 lived breathe bled jiu-jitsu but at some 283 00:13:25,939 --> 00:13:23,129 point and I mean this very tangibly my 284 00:13:27,230 --> 00:13:25,949 curiosity was weaponized and people 285 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:27,240 don't like hearing that because it 286 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:30,180 doesn't make sense to them right what I 287 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:32,370 mean by that is something very simple 288 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:35,310 which is that my curiosity became so 289 00:13:41,269 --> 00:13:38,670 powerful it forced me to do something 290 00:13:45,439 --> 00:13:41,279 about it instead of being a consumer of 291 00:13:48,049 --> 00:13:45,449 information on this topic I just I had 292 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:48,059 to be a contributor and I think that 293 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:50,370 that's the biggest thing that I can say 294 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:52,290 you know in anytime I talk with a group 295 00:13:58,189 --> 00:13:55,680 of people we need more bright minds 296 00:14:00,049 --> 00:13:58,199 dealing with this subject anything you 297 00:14:02,299 --> 00:14:00,059 can do to contribute to our 298 00:14:03,860 --> 00:14:02,309 understanding of this in whatever way 299 00:14:06,350 --> 00:14:03,870 you can please do that's what I mean I 300 00:14:08,179 --> 00:14:06,360 want to weaponize your curiosity I want 301 00:14:10,549 --> 00:14:08,189 to make it so uncomfortable for you to 302 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:10,559 do nothing about this that you end up 303 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:15,600 doing something so anyway I wondered 304 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:17,970 what it would be like to be an 305 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:20,250 investigative filmmaker and luckily I am 306 00:14:25,249 --> 00:14:22,529 very persistent I think my greatest 307 00:14:27,650 --> 00:14:25,259 quality as far as getting things done is 308 00:14:30,379 --> 00:14:27,660 I can be really annoying to people that 309 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:30,389 ignore me and I was just really annoying 310 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:32,730 finally I found this journalist who I 311 00:14:37,790 --> 00:14:35,550 really respected and I I just I said I 312 00:14:39,470 --> 00:14:37,800 you know I need to know what it's like 313 00:14:41,780 --> 00:14:39,480 to be an investigative journalist what 314 00:14:46,140 --> 00:14:41,790 how do you do this and I want to I want 315 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:48,510 how do you get people to talk how do you 316 00:14:54,930 --> 00:14:52,480 win the trust of a source yeah it's a 317 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:54,940 tough question and it's easier for me 318 00:14:58,110 --> 00:14:56,650 now because people know me and I've been 319 00:14:59,760 --> 00:14:58,120 around a long time and I have a 320 00:15:03,270 --> 00:14:59,770 reputation as somebody keeps his word 321 00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:03,280 and that's whether it's organized crime 322 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:04,780 figures telling me something they don't 323 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:06,970 know what the cops to know or whether 324 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:08,560 it's some national security type 325 00:15:12,990 --> 00:15:10,150 operative somebody working in a 326 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:13,000 sensitive government position for the 327 00:15:17,820 --> 00:15:16,210 military or an Intel agency a lot of 328 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:17,830 those folks have shared information with 329 00:15:22,350 --> 00:15:20,110 me and I kept my word and kept my mouth 330 00:15:24,510 --> 00:15:22,360 shut you know they give you information 331 00:15:26,220 --> 00:15:24,520 that helps you understand the bigger 332 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:26,230 picture you may not be able to use it 333 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:28,450 directly but it helps you understand how 334 00:15:32,610 --> 00:15:30,550 things fit together I would be out of 335 00:15:34,740 --> 00:15:32,620 business if I don't keep my word to you 336 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:34,750 if I tell you that I'm not going to use 337 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:36,880 something or if I'm going to protect 338 00:15:41,370 --> 00:15:38,770 your identity and I violate that trust 339 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:41,380 I'm out of business that word gets 340 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:44,320 around and I could not be a reporter 341 00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:46,810 over a long period of time if I didn't 342 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:51,430 keep my work so that was George Knapp 343 00:15:54,690 --> 00:15:52,690 can I want to tell you about him but 344 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:54,700 first what he taught me being a 345 00:15:59,250 --> 00:15:56,850 journalist you have to have integrity 346 00:16:01,590 --> 00:15:59,260 your word is your word your word is your 347 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:01,600 bond you have to be reliable I mean 348 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:03,250 easily seem like simple things but 349 00:16:07,770 --> 00:16:06,100 they're really [\h__\h] important you 350 00:16:09,270 --> 00:16:07,780 have to be accurate when you're telling 351 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:09,280 people's life stories when you're asking 352 00:16:12,660 --> 00:16:10,270 them to talk about something really 353 00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:12,670 sensitive you have to be accurate if 354 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:14,470 you're not accurate you're screwed one 355 00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:16,330 mistake you have to be you have an 356 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:19,390 attention to detail and be sociable you 357 00:16:22,590 --> 00:16:21,430 can't be a jerk you need to be sociable 358 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:22,600 or people are not going to tell you 359 00:16:26,610 --> 00:16:25,090 these deeper experiences that they had 360 00:16:28,410 --> 00:16:26,620 we're not talking about what did you buy 361 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:28,420 at the grocery store yesterday we're 362 00:16:31,620 --> 00:16:29,920 talking about how is your complete 363 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:31,630 paradigm shifted because of your 364 00:16:36,090 --> 00:16:34,690 encounter with the UFO so that's you 365 00:16:38,250 --> 00:16:36,100 know these are the things that he has 366 00:16:40,110 --> 00:16:38,260 instilled upon me I've had the 367 00:16:42,060 --> 00:16:40,120 opportunity to mess them up and I 368 00:16:44,730 --> 00:16:42,070 haven't but that's a choice every time 369 00:16:47,010 --> 00:16:44,740 but the number one thing you need in 370 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:47,020 this field as an investigative filmmaker 371 00:16:55,019 --> 00:16:52,720 the number one thing yeah 372 00:16:56,970 --> 00:16:55,029 yeah you have to have a huge [\h__\h] 373 00:16:59,579 --> 00:16:56,980 [\h__\h] meter sorry mom actually hates 374 00:17:01,679 --> 00:16:59,589 it when I curse the the point is is that 375 00:17:05,069 --> 00:17:01,689 most people are full of it 376 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:05,079 I'm sorry it's just true most people are 377 00:17:10,980 --> 00:17:08,079 full of it and you wonder why why would 378 00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:10,990 you waste your time and usually it's 379 00:17:16,020 --> 00:17:12,400 just that people feel lonely they need 380 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:16,030 recognition you know so you you have to 381 00:17:20,669 --> 00:17:18,010 do that because if I chased every story 382 00:17:22,919 --> 00:17:20,679 that was presented to me if I can't move 383 00:17:26,819 --> 00:17:22,929 the needle forward you might be telling 384 00:17:28,649 --> 00:17:26,829 the truth but I can't help you so we all 385 00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:28,659 have to decide how we spend our time in 386 00:17:34,890 --> 00:17:31,270 this field however you're going to 387 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:34,900 contribute ok so how do I make my films 388 00:17:38,399 --> 00:17:36,370 you know I think this is something that 389 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:38,409 you know a lot of people ask me and the 390 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:41,830 simple question is very very slowly so 391 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:44,950 don't expect much from me ok I'm a 392 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:48,640 one-person show i film direct edit audio 393 00:17:53,370 --> 00:17:50,890 engineer produce everything on my own 394 00:17:54,860 --> 00:17:53,380 it's a miracle to me that one of my 395 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:54,870 films is going to be mass distributed 396 00:17:59,370 --> 00:17:57,520 you know this is something I lay burov 397 00:18:03,029 --> 00:17:59,380 love so I do it all by myself 398 00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:03,039 but the thing is is a the main thing I 399 00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:04,870 do is I look for people closest to me 400 00:18:09,539 --> 00:18:07,270 you all have people close to you that 401 00:18:11,070 --> 00:18:09,549 are that have fascinating stories that 402 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:11,080 you could engage in their lives you have 403 00:18:16,620 --> 00:18:12,640 to start with the people and the things 404 00:18:18,029 --> 00:18:16,630 closest to you interestingly enough one 405 00:18:20,970 --> 00:18:18,039 of the people closest to me do you guys 406 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:20,980 know about Star Trek this is all about 407 00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,510 aliens this is about the prime directive 408 00:18:25,529 --> 00:18:24,400 I mean this is like whoa this is 409 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:25,539 something that I figured be really cool 410 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:27,970 well I thought you would enjoy this one 411 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:29,770 of my dear friends growing up was the 412 00:18:35,130 --> 00:18:32,049 son of Gene Roddenberry but he had never 413 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:35,140 talked about aliens or UFOs publicly and 414 00:18:39,090 --> 00:18:37,270 I thought that was crazy because he's a 415 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:39,100 you know an important person in this 416 00:18:43,770 --> 00:18:41,110 philosophy that was that was put all 417 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:43,780 around the world of acceptance you know 418 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:45,280 for example is one of the the key 419 00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:48,400 tenants so I had him his name was Eugene 420 00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:49,840 Roddenberry and I just want to show you 421 00:18:56,990 --> 00:18:52,750 a little message he has actually for you 422 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:12,450 [Music] 423 00:19:17,549 --> 00:19:15,749 my name is Eugene Roddenberry I am the 424 00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:17,559 son of Gene Roddenberry creator of Star 425 00:19:24,450 --> 00:19:21,190 Trek I believe there's life on other 426 00:19:27,690 --> 00:19:24,460 planets I hope that they are are super 427 00:19:30,139 --> 00:19:27,700 evolved and highly intelligent and and 428 00:19:32,369 --> 00:19:30,149 have chosen I would like to thank 429 00:19:33,869 --> 00:19:32,379 choosen not to interfere because they're 430 00:19:36,029 --> 00:19:33,879 letting us sort of evolve and make our 431 00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:36,039 own mistakes although I've heard other 432 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:39,190 stories from people that they have 433 00:19:43,889 --> 00:19:41,289 involved themselves but that's another 434 00:19:45,389 --> 00:19:43,899 discussion I don't have any fears about 435 00:19:47,489 --> 00:19:45,399 it like so many people will be like oh I 436 00:19:48,090 --> 00:19:47,499 shouldn't say anything because that UFO 437 00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:48,100 thing it's 438 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:50,080 it's shrouded in all this sort of like 439 00:19:54,899 --> 00:19:53,470 all these crazy people talk about it for 440 00:19:56,340 --> 00:19:54,909 me it's very scientific and matter of 441 00:19:58,499 --> 00:19:56,350 matter of fact with all the different 442 00:19:59,970 --> 00:19:58,509 sightings out there if one is true then 443 00:20:02,340 --> 00:19:59,980 yeah and there's and at least one of 444 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:02,350 them's got to be true to a degree you 445 00:20:05,659 --> 00:20:03,369 know with all the billions of planets 446 00:20:08,999 --> 00:20:05,669 with all the billion chances for life 447 00:20:14,249 --> 00:20:09,009 there's got to be life out there I think 448 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:14,259 it's stupid to to think there's not if 449 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:15,850 you could ask an alien one thing what 450 00:20:25,060 --> 00:20:22,870 how did they get to where they are today 451 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:25,070 assuming there are more advanced species 452 00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:28,370 and because it would give me hope that 453 00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:30,320 maybe we can get to that point one day - 454 00:20:36,970 --> 00:20:34,760 did your father ever see a UFO - the 455 00:20:39,220 --> 00:20:36,980 best my alot knowledge note to the best 456 00:20:41,380 --> 00:20:39,230 of my knowledge I do not know actually 457 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:41,390 to be completely honest I'm I'm totally 458 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:44,510 unaware if my father ever knew about any 459 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:46,970 sort of UFOs or had any interaction and 460 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:48,590 you've never seen it UFO B's I've never 461 00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:50,330 seen myself would you would you like to 462 00:20:53,230 --> 00:20:52,790 if they exist I Kimmy I want a flying 463 00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:53,240 one 464 00:20:59,260 --> 00:20:54,830 I wouldn't wanna fly it I'd want to be 465 00:21:01,120 --> 00:20:59,270 in mom but you know what is UFO I mean 466 00:21:02,770 --> 00:21:01,130 obviously the language unidentified 467 00:21:04,510 --> 00:21:02,780 flying object could mean anything but I 468 00:21:07,870 --> 00:21:04,520 think what we're talking about is a 469 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:07,880 craft built by another race and other 470 00:21:13,870 --> 00:21:10,880 species from an alien world and that 471 00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:13,880 would be cool to see highly advanced 472 00:21:18,130 --> 00:21:16,070 intelligence that builds a craft that 473 00:21:21,310 --> 00:21:18,140 can somehow traverse space-time right 474 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:21,320 yeah that's not what UFO means but 475 00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,490 that's what we're talking right that's 476 00:21:26,980 --> 00:21:24,559 what we're talking about right give 477 00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:26,990 anything that you'd want to say to the 478 00:21:30,970 --> 00:21:29,600 audience right now you know the only 479 00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:30,980 thing I would want to say to the people 480 00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:37,070 in this particular audience is I I I am 481 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:40,880 a believer that there is some sort of 482 00:21:44,590 --> 00:21:42,350 life out there and my preference is 483 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:44,600 intelligent life that's evolved beyond 484 00:21:50,530 --> 00:21:48,530 ours and I appreciate everyone who's 485 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:50,540 been out there kind of trying to find it 486 00:21:56,260 --> 00:21:52,490 who's been digging deep 487 00:22:02,289 --> 00:21:56,270 I mostly appreciate those who have 488 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:02,299 looked at it in a way that is scientific 489 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:04,850 and rational and and through deduction 490 00:22:09,340 --> 00:22:07,010 and trying to find evidence and proof 491 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:09,350 it's an uphill battle I mean I have no 492 00:22:13,210 --> 00:22:11,570 doubt whether whether it's just because 493 00:22:16,419 --> 00:22:13,220 the general public isn't willing to 494 00:22:18,909 --> 00:22:16,429 believe or whether because officials and 495 00:22:22,539 --> 00:22:18,919 whatever programs are closing doors and 496 00:22:24,460 --> 00:22:22,549 not letting you know but I do appreciate 497 00:22:26,380 --> 00:22:24,470 that there's people out there who are 498 00:22:28,030 --> 00:22:26,390 who keep asking the question and keep 499 00:22:32,049 --> 00:22:28,040 knocking on those doors and keep 500 00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:32,059 discovering things I am excited for you 501 00:22:37,269 --> 00:22:33,830 all to be vindicated 502 00:22:39,549 --> 00:22:37,279 for for us to meet that alien life-form 503 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:39,559 or whatever it is and for however many 504 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:41,690 millions of you are out there see like 505 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:43,490 see we're not crazy 506 00:22:50,529 --> 00:22:48,159 there's life and I I don't know if I 507 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:50,539 believe that'll happen or I just want it 508 00:22:55,299 --> 00:22:52,490 to happen it's both I believe it will 509 00:22:59,210 --> 00:22:55,309 happen and I want it to happen cuz I am 510 00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:59,220 a believer to that there is 511 00:23:05,390 --> 00:23:00,960 there's there's got to be something 512 00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:05,400 beyond us because the universe is a big 513 00:23:20,910 --> 00:23:18,120 I really appreciate his perspective you 514 00:23:22,170 --> 00:23:20,920 know he's a very analytical person but 515 00:23:23,790 --> 00:23:22,180 he comes from this you know kind of 516 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:23,800 family heritage where he should have an 517 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:26,050 opinion so it's nice to finally get that 518 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:29,410 opinion from him so you guys everybody 519 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:32,230 watched this movie today so I'm gonna go 520 00:23:39,420 --> 00:23:33,970 over some of the fine points on it and 521 00:23:43,020 --> 00:23:39,430 we'll see how deep we go into this this 522 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:43,030 is the most significant pieces of actual 523 00:23:54,030 --> 00:23:45,940 UFO and extraterrestrial data we have 524 00:23:56,460 --> 00:23:54,040 ever seen who are we are we alone and 525 00:23:58,140 --> 00:23:56,470 where are we actually sitting within the 526 00:24:04,250 --> 00:23:58,150 architecture of our universe 527 00:24:09,789 --> 00:24:04,260 I was recently introduced to his surgeon 528 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:13,339 nanotechnology microchips embedded by 529 00:24:21,829 --> 00:24:17,609 aliens dr. Roger Leir did confirm lovey 530 00:24:24,919 --> 00:24:21,839 be patient number 17 this is a little 531 00:24:25,549 --> 00:24:24,929 spot here that shows sprue yeah right 532 00:24:27,829 --> 00:24:25,559 there 533 00:24:29,809 --> 00:24:27,839 listen half the object in for analysis 534 00:24:31,729 --> 00:24:29,819 and tell us whether the materials from 535 00:24:34,309 --> 00:24:31,739 off-planet we're talking about something 536 00:24:37,789 --> 00:24:34,319 that is highly advanced and fabricated 537 00:24:40,339 --> 00:24:37,799 by an intelligence is that correct yes I 538 00:24:42,199 --> 00:24:40,349 don't have any answers I'm still 539 00:24:44,479 --> 00:24:42,209 doubting Thomas on what this could 540 00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,489 possibly be I just want all this to end 541 00:24:54,019 --> 00:24:46,559 I just want to remove its the scarier 542 00:24:56,269 --> 00:24:54,029 than 36 elements here this is the most 543 00:25:00,349 --> 00:24:56,279 astounding array of elements in a single 544 00:25:02,329 --> 00:25:00,359 sample I've ever seen it's a biggest 545 00:25:05,470 --> 00:25:02,339 story of the 20th and 21st centuries 546 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:05,480 it's the biggest story never told 547 00:25:10,210 --> 00:25:08,090 I've been trying for a month to get a 548 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:10,220 hold of beam it have changed his phone 549 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:14,080 number we'll answer any of my messages 550 00:25:18,990 --> 00:25:16,970 what are your thoughts I'm telling you 551 00:25:21,730 --> 00:25:19,000 it's not from here 552 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:21,740 this sample did not come from our solar 553 00:25:32,450 --> 00:25:30,110 cool so that was a trailer that was just 554 00:25:34,130 --> 00:25:32,460 cut for the film you know for its 555 00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:34,140 premiere that's what we'll be going out 556 00:25:37,850 --> 00:25:35,880 very soon to people hopefully they'll 557 00:25:40,270 --> 00:25:37,860 see the movie soon this is dr. Roger 558 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:40,280 Leir he's the man who started the whole 559 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:42,510 concept of cutting these things out of 560 00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:45,120 people's bodies he has now passed away 561 00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:47,400 as we talked about earlier today this is 562 00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:49,830 what it looked like when it would the 563 00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:53,070 x-ray was done of the object and this is 564 00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:55,470 one of the tell-tale signs according to 565 00:26:00,140 --> 00:25:57,960 dr. Lear's that the shape of these 566 00:26:02,650 --> 00:26:00,150 things they're very similar in the 567 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:02,660 patient's he's cut them out of allegedly 568 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:06,930 again patients 17 is the reason why I 569 00:26:12,110 --> 00:26:09,690 was interested in doing this movie after 570 00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:12,120 the first day just seeing the way that 571 00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:14,460 people were trying to take from him and 572 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:18,420 just take his story and really I wanted 573 00:26:24,530 --> 00:26:20,970 to help him find answers because I 574 00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:24,540 myself wanted answers so he's really the 575 00:26:29,450 --> 00:26:27,470 reason why I've stuck with this 576 00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,460 investigation to the point where I could 577 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:32,400 put out a movie on it although there's a 578 00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:33,450 lot of work to be done and there 579 00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:36,120 probably will be a part two after we get 580 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:38,760 the sample back we will find out and 581 00:26:44,210 --> 00:26:41,910 prove definitively one way or the other 582 00:26:46,610 --> 00:26:44,220 what this is but I do want to talk to 583 00:26:49,130 --> 00:26:46,620 you today about some of the details of 584 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:49,140 what we found in the sample because it 585 00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:51,170 is extraordinary 586 00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:53,310 these are scenes that I just thought 587 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:54,840 would would show you a little bit of 588 00:27:00,530 --> 00:26:57,690 humor that's literally a stud finder in 589 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,540 his hand that's a carpentry tool and I 590 00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:02,400 found it very strange that that's what 591 00:27:05,420 --> 00:27:03,990 they were using to find these objects 592 00:27:07,820 --> 00:27:05,430 there's no possible way they were 593 00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:07,830 finding these objects with these so it 594 00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:11,910 was a kind of strange situation they 595 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:13,830 were using a black light to look for 596 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:20,910 signs of abduction okay yeah I'll 597 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:23,910 continue yeah I found that very strange 598 00:27:28,670 --> 00:27:26,610 they took sample of the blood so that 599 00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:28,680 when they removed the object they could 600 00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:30,990 then put it in back with the original 601 00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:32,460 tissue and everything over the body 602 00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:35,660 which I thought was interesting as well 603 00:27:42,050 --> 00:27:39,870 show you a few images from the surgery 604 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:42,060 itself which you've seen now like five 605 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:44,910 times today but as you can see I mean 606 00:27:48,260 --> 00:27:46,650 it's no little deal I mean they're 607 00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:48,270 really like ripping into patients 608 00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:49,470 seventeen skin and pulling out this 609 00:27:56,030 --> 00:27:51,950 object I would not like to do it myself 610 00:27:57,860 --> 00:27:56,040 the object did not look extraordinary by 611 00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:57,870 any means it's the little bit of black 612 00:28:02,270 --> 00:28:00,360 that's in there look like a piece of 613 00:28:04,790 --> 00:28:02,280 pencil lad or something 614 00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:04,800 just visually and then they encased it 615 00:28:12,050 --> 00:28:08,220 in in the serum of his own blood and we 616 00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:12,060 took it to seal laboratory which is one 617 00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:14,160 of the top scanning electron microscope 618 00:28:18,590 --> 00:28:16,200 places in all of Los Angeles 619 00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:18,600 they're a great credible lab we took 620 00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:20,670 over the laboratory and we started doing 621 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:23,460 some of the initial analysis 622 00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:26,250 I was sure on this day we were going to 623 00:28:31,910 --> 00:28:29,400 get some answers I was positive I was 624 00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:31,920 also very naive this is the the Gauss 625 00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:34,020 meter again the electromagnetic 626 00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:35,790 frequency thing once it was out of the 627 00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:36,150 body 628 00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:37,860 we were really not getting much of a 629 00:28:42,380 --> 00:28:40,470 reading off of this object we if you 630 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:42,390 held it up to my camera you would 631 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:45,810 because of the battery in my camera so 632 00:28:50,770 --> 00:28:48,450 we put it in the Machine and all of a 633 00:28:53,180 --> 00:28:50,780 sudden I realized everybody around me is 634 00:28:55,930 --> 00:28:53,190 seeing something different than what I'm 635 00:28:58,820 --> 00:28:55,940 seeing in that anything under 636 00:29:00,860 --> 00:28:58,830 high-powered magnification ends up 637 00:29:02,750 --> 00:29:00,870 looking extraordinary it looks 638 00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:02,760 absolutely incredible it looks like the 639 00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,070 topography of the moon it's incredible 640 00:29:10,790 --> 00:29:09,360 but depending on who you are and what 641 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:10,800 you want to see you're seeing different 642 00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:13,500 things so I wanted the hardcore physical 643 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:15,960 scientific data which are two things you 644 00:29:19,850 --> 00:29:17,850 can really look at elemental analysis 645 00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:19,860 and isotopic analysis and I want to make 646 00:29:23,150 --> 00:29:21,060 sure you understand what those things 647 00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:23,160 are but at this point in the 648 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:28,140 investigation this article came out the 649 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:31,130 smoking gun and it's talking about 650 00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:33,210 object number 17 651 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:37,320 this really pissed me off so I read this 652 00:29:42,770 --> 00:29:40,290 article I know for a fact the analysis 653 00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:42,780 had not been done yet and there's an 654 00:29:49,130 --> 00:29:45,870 article saying it's the smoking gun so I 655 00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:49,140 was furious because I told dr. Lee 656 00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:50,520 gonna expose him if he's trying to 657 00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:53,190 mislead the public anyway I started 658 00:29:56,660 --> 00:29:54,630 reading the article a little bit more 659 00:29:59,030 --> 00:29:56,670 and they were talking about other 660 00:30:01,940 --> 00:29:59,040 samples and then incorporating results 661 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:01,950 from other samples so it was it was not 662 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:04,770 a lie but I felt it to be misleading 663 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:07,650 because we had not done the analysis so 664 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:10,860 I was even more eager to get scientific 665 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:12,690 analysis done on this object so I could 666 00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:13,770 case closed 667 00:30:22,090 --> 00:30:17,100 fun movie done right that was the idea 668 00:30:25,910 --> 00:30:22,100 and then of course dr. Leir passed away 669 00:30:27,380 --> 00:30:25,920 right then he had a heart attack and I 670 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:27,390 mean I talked to him the day of I 671 00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:32,450 believe he when he died and it was a 672 00:30:36,830 --> 00:30:35,190 shame because it was like a boat it had 673 00:30:39,860 --> 00:30:36,840 lost its captain right there was nobody 674 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:39,870 really you know to for me to follow to 675 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:41,370 say okay well how do you do it what's 676 00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:42,330 the next step 677 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:44,760 doctor there was a very sane rational 678 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:46,530 person so I enjoyed talking with him 679 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:47,760 about it so anyway I had to do the 680 00:30:52,010 --> 00:30:50,250 scientific analysis myself finally got 681 00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:52,020 the piece sent it to the lab and here's 682 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:53,510 what I want to talk to you about today 683 00:31:01,030 --> 00:30:55,710 specifically about this before we get 684 00:31:04,910 --> 00:31:01,040 into the other weird stuff all the 685 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:04,920 elements in red or what have any 686 00:31:11,330 --> 00:31:08,190 abundance in this piece there are 36 687 00:31:13,730 --> 00:31:11,340 elements okay the majority of those 688 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:13,740 elements any of you here are material 689 00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:15,930 scientists or you can read these types 690 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:19,380 of documents the majority is iron I mean 691 00:31:25,390 --> 00:31:21,990 like the mass majority of it is iron 692 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:25,400 we're talking about parts per million of 693 00:31:30,050 --> 00:31:29,010 all these other little bits so I didn't 694 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:30,060 think it was like really that 695 00:31:34,970 --> 00:31:32,850 interesting that you know it had all 696 00:31:37,970 --> 00:31:34,980 these other things in it but apparently 697 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:37,980 it is to have these many different 698 00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:39,810 elements playing nicely together and a 699 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:41,640 sample is very unusual like if you just 700 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:43,890 took a piece of iron or a nail you're 701 00:31:48,410 --> 00:31:45,510 not gonna have all these trace elements 702 00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:48,420 is what I've been told I haven't done 703 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:51,750 other analysis but this was the big one 704 00:31:59,540 --> 00:31:55,290 this is we looked at was it zinc and 705 00:32:02,810 --> 00:31:59,550 copper we looked at the the isotopes so 706 00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:02,820 the way to simply describe this 707 00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:06,960 is if you take a piece of mountain and 708 00:32:15,019 --> 00:32:11,100 you cut it there's gonna be five types 709 00:32:17,149 --> 00:32:15,029 of zinc in that mountain five different 710 00:32:20,629 --> 00:32:17,159 types of isotopes to stabilize the zinc 711 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:20,639 for which you can really test for the 712 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:24,090 terrestrial ratios how much of that 713 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:25,919 isotope of zinc is going to be the same 714 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:30,690 on earth it's the same if you're outside 715 00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:34,049 by one percent after you calculate for a 716 00:32:39,529 --> 00:32:37,139 margin of error if you're outside the 717 00:32:41,539 --> 00:32:39,539 terrestrial norm by one percent that is 718 00:32:44,810 --> 00:32:41,549 huge that is definitively non 719 00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:44,820 terrestrial so remember that one percent 720 00:32:52,460 --> 00:32:48,529 is everything okay after margin of error 721 00:32:54,769 --> 00:32:52,470 so we look at two different elements we 722 00:32:57,499 --> 00:32:54,779 looked at six different isotopes out of 723 00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:57,509 those two different elements so I knew 724 00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:00,480 nothing about any of this and I needed 725 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:03,659 to kind of get an education in it so I 726 00:33:06,919 --> 00:33:05,250 started looking at things like from 727 00:33:10,129 --> 00:33:06,929 Apollo 15 for example they did amazing 728 00:33:12,980 --> 00:33:10,139 isotopic analysis from the moon which 729 00:33:14,990 --> 00:33:12,990 has different isotopes than on earth so 730 00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:15,000 the ratio of isotopes on the moon is 731 00:33:19,730 --> 00:33:16,559 different than on earth and it's 732 00:33:21,769 --> 00:33:19,740 different in the Andromeda galaxy so you 733 00:33:23,529 --> 00:33:21,779 can start to you can start to know where 734 00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:23,539 something is from if it is in fact 735 00:33:28,009 --> 00:33:26,159 extraterrestrial by the isotopes that's 736 00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:28,019 how we determine if things are 737 00:33:32,869 --> 00:33:29,870 extraterrestrial is by the isotopes 738 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:32,879 making sense so far okay it took me a 739 00:33:39,850 --> 00:33:37,110 year to understand that okay so I 740 00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:39,860 started looking into well we do study 741 00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:41,700 extraterrestrial isotopes here on earth 742 00:33:46,940 --> 00:33:43,320 we do it all the time there are 743 00:33:49,129 --> 00:33:46,950 specialists in this lucky for me okay so 744 00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:49,139 I start contacting all these people that 745 00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:51,240 wrote these scientific papers and I 746 00:33:54,259 --> 00:33:52,980 talked to them about stabilization of 747 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:54,269 isotopes you know that are 748 00:33:58,129 --> 00:33:55,710 extraterrestrial and I start learning 749 00:34:00,440 --> 00:33:58,139 and learning and learning and come to 750 00:34:04,749 --> 00:34:00,450 something very simple and this is not 751 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:04,759 disputed this is simple these are the 752 00:34:14,809 --> 00:34:09,050 abundances of isotopes for example zinc 753 00:34:16,609 --> 00:34:14,819 64 right is 48.63 that is accepted that 754 00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:16,619 is the terrestrial norm 755 00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,569 there's one other number people go by 756 00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:20,639 but that's that this is the accepted one 757 00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:24,419 right here isotopic abundance is found 758 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:29,700 in sample 17 notice the zinc 64 so we're 759 00:34:36,469 --> 00:34:33,210 at 51.1% and notice that that is a 760 00:34:38,419 --> 00:34:36,479 standard relative standard deviation of 761 00:34:39,019 --> 00:34:38,429 one point two five percent so that's 762 00:34:41,269 --> 00:34:39,029 huge 763 00:34:43,969 --> 00:34:41,279 so we're basically saying you need to 764 00:34:46,279 --> 00:34:43,979 cut off 1.25 above or below because you 765 00:34:47,529 --> 00:34:46,289 know our machines don't exactly do 766 00:34:53,149 --> 00:34:47,539 better than that 767 00:34:57,019 --> 00:34:53,159 so terrestrial abundance 48.63 sample 768 00:35:01,819 --> 00:34:57,029 number 17 51 point 1 remember what I 769 00:35:04,609 --> 00:35:01,829 said 1 percent is everything so at the 770 00:35:09,620 --> 00:35:04,619 highest if the standard deviation right 771 00:35:12,709 --> 00:35:09,630 of 1.25 at the highest is 52 point 3 5 772 00:35:15,799 --> 00:35:12,719 at the lowest it's 49 point 8 5 if it's 773 00:35:19,479 --> 00:35:15,809 correct without the standard deviation 774 00:35:22,849 --> 00:35:19,489 above or below the sample is 2 point 4 7 775 00:35:25,279 --> 00:35:22,859 outside the terrestrial norm it could be 776 00:35:29,479 --> 00:35:25,289 as high as 3 point 7 2 or it could be as 777 00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:29,489 low as 1 point 2 2 so we're looking at 778 00:35:34,999 --> 00:35:31,049 two point four seven outside the 779 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:35,009 terrestrial norm how the hell is this in 780 00:35:41,749 --> 00:35:38,210 a guy's leg I mean this is to me now 781 00:35:44,209 --> 00:35:41,759 really interesting I did not expect this 782 00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:44,219 patient 17 did not expect this in fact 783 00:35:48,289 --> 00:35:47,460 it annoyed us because all of a sudden we 784 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,299 don't know what to think 785 00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:51,119 so so this is now one test I went to my 786 00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:53,849 mentor George Knapp and I was like ok 787 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:55,710 look you've been down this road a bunch 788 00:35:58,370 --> 00:35:57,930 of time this evidence seems too good to 789 00:36:01,339 --> 00:35:58,380 be true 790 00:36:03,890 --> 00:36:01,349 what do I do and he's like dig deeper 791 00:36:06,109 --> 00:36:03,900 don't publish anything dig deeper find 792 00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:06,119 out more okay well how do I do that 793 00:36:16,099 --> 00:36:11,869 I found the one specialist on this earth 794 00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:16,109 who dealt with zinc extraterrestrial 795 00:36:23,329 --> 00:36:19,680 isotopes I found this research paper 796 00:36:25,309 --> 00:36:23,339 from like 12 years ago and this doctor 797 00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:25,319 in Middle America is like now a normal 798 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:28,079 doctor I call him up and I started 799 00:36:29,740 --> 00:36:29,130 asking him all these questions about 800 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:29,750 extra 801 00:36:33,970 --> 00:36:31,850 trails leak isotopes and this guy 802 00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:33,980 thought I was just [\h__\h] mad you know 803 00:36:38,770 --> 00:36:36,200 he's like we but he really quickly 804 00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:38,780 really quickly started to figure out 805 00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:41,180 where I was going with this and I was 806 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:43,160 like look man you wrote like one of the 807 00:36:48,490 --> 00:36:45,770 definitive papers on extraterrestrials 808 00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:48,500 Inc this is a very specific question but 809 00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:50,540 I need to know you know is there 810 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:53,030 anything to these results because these 811 00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:55,250 were from an accredited lab one of the 812 00:37:00,820 --> 00:36:58,160 best labs in the world northern analytic 813 00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:00,830 you can look look up this lab and he 814 00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:03,470 looks at the results and he tells me 815 00:37:09,070 --> 00:37:06,080 they're impossible that there's 816 00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:09,080 contamination okay first time I heard 817 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:10,400 that let me let me let me get into that 818 00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:15,010 or the lab is pulling one over on me 819 00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:16,760 anyway I said okay tell me about 820 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:19,520 contamination that is very interesting 821 00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:20,330 okay 822 00:37:28,930 --> 00:37:25,430 nickel 64 can sometimes be seen as zinc 823 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:28,940 64 in order for that to happen you have 824 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:31,370 to have not washed they call it washing 825 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:33,410 the zinc you have to triple wash it I 826 00:37:38,140 --> 00:37:35,810 said great we found an answer no problem 827 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:38,150 I'm calling the lab so I called the lab 828 00:37:41,590 --> 00:37:40,250 they have no idea what the results are 829 00:37:43,420 --> 00:37:41,600 they like basically print them out and 830 00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:43,430 send them to you I get the guy to pull 831 00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:44,180 up the file 832 00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:50,360 chance that you have contaminated my 833 00:37:56,740 --> 00:37:53,270 sample and of course he's on the 834 00:38:00,040 --> 00:37:56,750 defensive because no it says right here 835 00:38:03,070 --> 00:38:00,050 we triple washed the zinc this is our 836 00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:03,080 livelihood governments depend upon our 837 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:06,230 results what why would we cut corners 838 00:38:09,460 --> 00:38:08,210 didn't give you bad results sometimes 839 00:38:11,290 --> 00:38:09,470 it's a matter of life and death these 840 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:11,300 are for materials sometimes they do 841 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,240 analysis for materials for for planes I 842 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:16,400 said okay good point will you look at 843 00:38:20,830 --> 00:38:18,770 the results for me it looks at the 844 00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:20,840 results and he starts kind of getting 845 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:23,030 silent you know on the high like like 846 00:38:31,090 --> 00:38:28,370 stuttering like oh oh yeah so I start to 847 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:31,100 notice that he too sees these results 848 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:34,370 are interesting and I go okay so what do 849 00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,170 i do man what so you're telling me your 850 00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:38,720 lab gave me the good results you see my 851 00:38:43,660 --> 00:38:40,670 issue here and he goes look this is that 852 00:38:45,069 --> 00:38:43,670 this is your problem we just do analysis 853 00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,079 I can't tell you what it is that you 854 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:47,839 have okay fair enough anyway the point 855 00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:52,010 is with one test I can't prove that it 856 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:55,730 was not contaminated I need to do more 857 00:38:58,990 --> 00:38:57,530 tests but it was interesting to see 858 00:39:01,180 --> 00:38:59,000 everybody's reaction is very telling 859 00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:01,190 about the psychology of humanity you 860 00:39:07,539 --> 00:39:02,720 know when something is outside of your 861 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:07,549 scope of belief I then went to UCLA the 862 00:39:11,470 --> 00:39:10,490 head meteorite specialist because dr. 863 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:11,480 Leir and people were throwing around 864 00:39:17,799 --> 00:39:14,990 these terms like meteoric iron and I 865 00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:17,809 didn't even know what that was in fact 866 00:39:26,349 --> 00:39:21,160 it's not meteoric iron definitively 867 00:39:28,690 --> 00:39:26,359 objects 17 is not a meteor it is not 868 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:28,700 meteoric is definitively not a meteorite 869 00:39:33,339 --> 00:39:30,730 I asked one of the world's specialists 870 00:39:35,859 --> 00:39:33,349 top special is not a meteorite they can 871 00:39:38,140 --> 00:39:35,869 tell by how much I think nickel is with 872 00:39:40,809 --> 00:39:38,150 mixed with the iron so we have something 873 00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:40,819 that's not a meteorite has thirty-six 874 00:39:45,309 --> 00:39:43,099 elements has definitively 875 00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:45,319 non-terrestrial zinc isotopes as long as 876 00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:47,960 there's not some gross huge error so 877 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:49,670 this is a very anomalous strange 878 00:39:53,470 --> 00:39:51,530 material and it happened to be pulled 879 00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:53,480 out of a man's leg who has had a duct of 880 00:40:01,420 --> 00:39:56,990 experiences his whole life so good 881 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:01,430 subject for a movie patient 17 as you 882 00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,170 can see in his face through like the 883 00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:05,599 majority of the movie he is not happy 884 00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:07,760 about it as a religious man and he's 885 00:40:11,859 --> 00:40:10,160 also very confused by all these people 886 00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:11,869 telling him he's got this crazy thing in 887 00:40:16,839 --> 00:40:14,960 his leg I have a little tiny little clip 888 00:40:20,890 --> 00:40:16,849 from the movie just so you can see the 889 00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:20,900 psychology that he has to deal with do 890 00:40:35,579 --> 00:40:33,870 I think most people are like fish most 891 00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:35,589 of the masses of humanity like the fish 892 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,049 and I don't really know or care what's 893 00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:40,240 outside their immediate spirit of 894 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:52,010 what are we looking to learn about 895 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:55,050 patient number 17 yes the topic analysis 896 00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:56,430 will tell us if the materials come on 897 00:41:01,730 --> 00:40:59,940 the planet so that's very important well 898 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:01,740 if this thing is emitting frequency 899 00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:03,810 there's got to be a way to capture that 900 00:41:07,849 --> 00:41:06,329 data somehow the ultimate goal is to 901 00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:07,859 hack the alien Internet we have reason 902 00:41:12,349 --> 00:41:09,510 to believe that the complex web of 903 00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:12,359 communication between aliens and some 904 00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:14,190 supercomputer some place and advocates 905 00:41:19,339 --> 00:41:16,950 are also plugged into this system it's a 906 00:41:24,020 --> 00:41:19,349 big story of the 20th and 21st centuries 907 00:41:26,780 --> 00:41:24,030 it's the biggest story never told I mean 908 00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:26,790 that's where the the scope of my you 909 00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:29,310 know ability to even conceive of what 910 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:30,630 he's saying has just been blown out of 911 00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:34,710 the water he believes that IIIi don't 912 00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:37,500 know what to say about that he is saying 913 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:39,089 cuz I asked that question that one of 914 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:40,650 you asked me earlier well if it's 915 00:41:43,790 --> 00:41:42,210 emitting frequency can't you study that 916 00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:43,800 frequency of course that's what I want 917 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:45,270 to know right we all want to know that 918 00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:47,070 and he basically says you know look 919 00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,510 we're all part of this alien internet 920 00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:50,880 all of us abductees and you know 921 00:41:55,010 --> 00:41:52,920 essentially but that is the goal hack 922 00:41:57,710 --> 00:41:55,020 the alien Internet and I was like okay 923 00:42:00,040 --> 00:41:57,720 well that puts patients 17 at a 924 00:42:03,380 --> 00:42:00,050 crossroads you know he's just a man a 925 00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,390 typical individual a very s he says that 926 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:05,040 I'm a normal person with an 927 00:42:08,990 --> 00:42:07,410 extraordinary experience it puts him in 928 00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:09,000 a position where we're trying to find 929 00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:10,920 out for him you know once and for all 930 00:42:15,260 --> 00:42:12,900 what this is that's about this film 931 00:42:19,010 --> 00:42:15,270 patient 17 you guys got to see a 932 00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,020 premiere of it today first time ever the 933 00:42:23,089 --> 00:42:20,880 orchard is the company that picked me up 934 00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:23,099 to distribute my film you know there's a 935 00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:25,230 lot of great artists out there and then 936 00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,720 never get their movies seen they never 937 00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:29,520 get their books published and they're 938 00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:33,150 great right so I feel very fortunate for 939 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:35,640 me this is a success story whatever it 940 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:37,290 is that you do if you're just really 941 00:42:42,109 --> 00:42:39,770 annoying and you don't stop eventually 942 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:42,119 you know it will it will work for you I 943 00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:44,010 believe that because it happened to me 944 00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:45,720 they called me and asked me why don't 945 00:42:50,650 --> 00:42:47,940 you let anybody put your movie out 946 00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:50,660 because everybody wanted to change it 947 00:42:55,220 --> 00:42:53,609 they wanted to change it somehow and it 948 00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:55,230 just it wasn't worth it to me so with 949 00:42:59,930 --> 00:42:56,910 the orchard I don't have to change it so 950 00:43:02,359 --> 00:42:59,940 you will see on October 10th it'll be on 951 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:02,369 iTunes so if you have iTunes you know 952 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:03,520 please spread the word 953 00:43:06,450 --> 00:43:05,140 it really does help me if more and more 954 00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:06,460 people see this it's a big opportunity 955 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:09,460 it will be on iTunes on October 10th you 956 00:43:14,130 --> 00:43:11,770 know let people know it will then be 957 00:43:16,050 --> 00:43:14,140 reaching into a whole bunch of other 958 00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:16,060 ways you can watch it but the iTunes is 959 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:18,910 the big one that's the launch ok that's 960 00:43:22,590 --> 00:43:20,710 it so what what is the big picture I 961 00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:22,600 have one last thing from George Knapp 962 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:24,160 where he's talking about the big picture 963 00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:28,450 of UFOs what is the big picture just 964 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:30,040 want you to hear a kind of summary of 965 00:43:33,930 --> 00:43:31,570 what I was just been talking about and 966 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:33,940 George is way more articulate than me 967 00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:35,410 and he always says the same thing in 968 00:43:44,590 --> 00:43:40,660 this video it's strange what the [\h__\h] is 969 00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:46,870 the best I can put together is that 970 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:48,800 there is another intelligence probably a 971 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:51,050 lot of other intelligences that interact 972 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:53,570 with us in a variety of ways they can 973 00:43:58,420 --> 00:43:56,090 enter our reality and mess with us and 974 00:44:01,000 --> 00:43:58,430 leave and there's not much we can do 975 00:44:02,860 --> 00:44:01,010 about it it seems that they have some 976 00:44:05,530 --> 00:44:02,870 sort of inherent interest in us whether 977 00:44:07,330 --> 00:44:05,540 wit it is the cosmic drive-in movie 978 00:44:08,590 --> 00:44:07,340 theater that they just come and like to 979 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:08,600 watch us because we're so damned 980 00:44:15,730 --> 00:44:12,410 entertaining or it's harvesting of souls 981 00:44:18,490 --> 00:44:15,740 or there's genetic material that they 982 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:18,500 need something they need from us it's 983 00:44:22,570 --> 00:44:20,510 clear that it is a symbiotic 984 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:22,580 relationship that there is something 985 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:24,530 they need from us that it's not just a 986 00:44:28,030 --> 00:44:26,390 passing interest they're not just 987 00:44:30,010 --> 00:44:28,040 driving by and looking out the window 988 00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:30,020 they've been here a long time they've 989 00:44:33,790 --> 00:44:31,430 been interacting with us throughout 990 00:44:37,060 --> 00:44:33,800 human history what their ultimate aim is 991 00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:37,070 I don't know I really don't I don't know 992 00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:39,620 that anybody knows I also suspect that 993 00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,070 this mystery is much bigger than just 994 00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:44,480 extraterrestrials visiting from other 995 00:44:48,340 --> 00:44:46,760 planets Jacmel I said it to me one time 996 00:44:51,370 --> 00:44:48,350 he said man I'm gonna be really 997 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:51,380 disappointed if the end of this mystery 998 00:44:54,610 --> 00:44:53,330 at the end of this that I it turns out 999 00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:54,620 these are just visitors from other 1000 00:45:00,340 --> 00:44:57,440 planets popping in now and then he 1001 00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:00,350 suspects as I have come to suspect that 1002 00:45:05,380 --> 00:45:03,350 it is much bigger and grander much 1003 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:05,390 harder to get your head around I'm you 1004 00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:07,010 know the stuff about area 51 is a 1005 00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:10,310 fantastic story it is difficult to 1006 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:12,710 absorb and difficult to get your head 1007 00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:15,610 around but there is a bigger and more 1008 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:19,150 complicated mystery that is at work 1009 00:45:23,710 --> 00:45:21,410 skinwalker ranch stuff that we pursued 1010 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:23,720 as it has taught me that is that 1011 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:26,090 whatever this intelligence is it really 1012 00:45:32,350 --> 00:45:29,210 does mess with us and sometimes it likes 1013 00:45:35,980 --> 00:45:32,360 to scare us and keep us off-balance and 1014 00:45:37,570 --> 00:45:35,990 it leads us down false paths I don't 1015 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:37,580 know if it's just mind games or it's 1016 00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:40,490 entertainment or it is some sort of a 1017 00:45:45,790 --> 00:45:42,590 steep learning curve that's what I hope 1018 00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:45,800 it is and I think it might be that we 1019 00:45:49,810 --> 00:45:48,470 are being led down a really long steep 1020 00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:49,820 learning curve 1021 00:45:55,590 --> 00:45:53,390 being educated along the way and where 1022 00:45:58,210 --> 00:45:55,600 maybe now we're in junior high and 1023 00:46:00,310 --> 00:45:58,220 someday we'll get to high school and and 1024 00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:00,320 if everything goes well and we don't 1025 00:46:05,350 --> 00:46:01,910 blow ourselves up maybe we'll get to 1026 00:46:08,410 --> 00:46:05,360 college someday and finally get a degree 1027 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:08,420 that teaches us about cosmic awareness 1028 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:10,970 we're not close to it yet and I'm not 1029 00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:13,250 sure any human really understands and 1030 00:46:20,740 --> 00:46:19,070 has all the answers right so you know 1031 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:20,750 that brings me back to the beginning 1032 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:23,450 which is the you know the basic concept 1033 00:46:28,030 --> 00:46:25,130 UFOs are Clockwork Orange 1034 00:46:29,740 --> 00:46:28,040 it basically after all these films that 1035 00:46:31,410 --> 00:46:29,750 I've been making and now are going to 1036 00:46:34,990 --> 00:46:31,420 start coming out because I have 1037 00:46:36,340 --> 00:46:35,000 distribution now with one film leads to 1038 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:36,350 the next to the next and now I can get 1039 00:46:42,610 --> 00:46:38,810 films out to you directly and and 1040 00:46:45,340 --> 00:46:42,620 successfully what I have found in all of 1041 00:46:47,050 --> 00:46:45,350 this research I'm gonna put my belief 1042 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:47,060 down like they were asking you guys and 1043 00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:48,410 what is your belief you know after you 1044 00:46:53,230 --> 00:46:50,990 made this book you know and I could be 1045 00:46:56,380 --> 00:46:53,240 totally wrong but what it seems like to 1046 00:46:58,300 --> 00:46:56,390 me now is that UFOs are not at all what 1047 00:46:59,530 --> 00:46:58,310 they appear to be and I'm I don't have a 1048 00:47:02,800 --> 00:46:59,540 first-hand experience like some of you 1049 00:47:04,750 --> 00:47:02,810 might I'm talking to a UFO group UFOs 1050 00:47:07,570 --> 00:47:04,760 and the experiences that people have 1051 00:47:11,230 --> 00:47:07,580 relayed to me seem to be some sort of 1052 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:11,240 display it seems to be an educational 1053 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:14,930 process meaning that we can tell by the 1054 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:19,730 method and by the pattern that these 1055 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:22,250 things tend to be in waves and and show 1056 00:47:26,590 --> 00:47:24,290 themselves and what's communicated if 1057 00:47:29,710 --> 00:47:26,600 you start to put that all together over 1058 00:47:32,170 --> 00:47:29,720 time right you start to see that there 1059 00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:32,180 is an education going on there's 1060 00:47:37,210 --> 00:47:34,070 something being conveyed depending on 1061 00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:37,220 culture and time what is shown is always 1062 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:40,190 just advanced from where we are now the 1063 00:47:44,590 --> 00:47:42,770 most depressing moment in my whole UFO 1064 00:47:46,540 --> 00:47:44,600 studies I had Jacques Vallee up to my 1065 00:47:50,380 --> 00:47:46,550 ranch you know the old school Godfather 1066 00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:50,390 of real hardcore UFO information and 1067 00:47:54,670 --> 00:47:52,550 study has had access to government 1068 00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:54,680 databases and I was like sitting there 1069 00:47:59,290 --> 00:47:56,750 the sun's going down I'm like this is it 1070 00:48:01,990 --> 00:47:59,300 Jeremy ask them ask them and I'm like 1071 00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:02,000 hey Jacques so what is this all about 1072 00:48:06,730 --> 00:48:03,680 the UFO is what 1073 00:48:09,490 --> 00:48:06,740 what's actually going on you know and he 1074 00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:09,500 just like takes this long pause and he's 1075 00:48:13,150 --> 00:48:11,569 like you're asking all the right 1076 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:13,160 questions you're asking the big 1077 00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:15,650 questions they took me 50 years to ask 1078 00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:17,030 those questions you're asking the right 1079 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:19,790 questions but I don't know the answers 1080 00:48:26,140 --> 00:48:24,170 it's a bigger mystery to me today as it 1081 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:26,150 was back then but but but at least you 1082 00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:27,890 know the right questions to ask and I 1083 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:29,510 was like chalk that is depressing as 1084 00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:31,609 hell just you know you're supposed to 1085 00:48:38,140 --> 00:48:34,910 tell me what's going to the easy way but 1086 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:38,150 anyway point being that I think it's 1087 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:40,490 much bigger than than saucers I think 1088 00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:41,930 it's much bigger than the narrative 1089 00:48:45,849 --> 00:48:43,369 that's being told I think it's much 1090 00:48:47,650 --> 00:48:45,859 bigger than the int the individual 1091 00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:47,660 experience because if you talk to 1092 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:49,190 somebody who had a close encounter it's 1093 00:48:55,210 --> 00:48:52,250 never just I saw a disc it's never just 1094 00:48:57,460 --> 00:48:55,220 a little I saw a disc there's always 1095 00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:57,470 more to it but people are afraid to tell 1096 00:49:00,040 --> 00:48:58,400 you because they tell you they're gonna 1097 00:49:02,349 --> 00:49:00,050 feel discredited it's okay to say you 1098 00:49:04,420 --> 00:49:02,359 saw a disc or a light but to tell you 1099 00:49:05,470 --> 00:49:04,430 anything more it's too scary it's too 1100 00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:05,480 strange too weird 1101 00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:08,630 so anyway that's the concept UFOs are 1102 00:49:13,539 --> 00:49:11,150 Clockwork Orange that you know like it 1103 00:49:15,789 --> 00:49:13,549 it represents something but it is not 1104 00:49:17,140 --> 00:49:15,799 what it represents that's my website you 1105 00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:17,150 can see everything there I hope you go 1106 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:19,040 there and enjoy it again thank you so 1107 00:49:24,789 --> 00:49:21,770 much I'm just an opinion I have but look 1108 00:49:26,859 --> 00:49:24,799 for my movies coming forward there will 1109 00:49:28,540 --> 00:49:26,869 be a lot coming out and thank you so 1110 00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:28,550 much for your time and attention today 1111 00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:40,480 [Applause] 1112 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:52,240 [Music] 1113 00:50:07,069 --> 00:49:58,540 [Applause]